If you decide to dye the wood, I recommend Rit cloth dye. by Igrlik Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:18 pm, Post I sprayed it down with some commercial de-greaser, let it soak for a minute then rinsed with rubbing alcohol. One of the main four parts that were changed in M91/30 production compared to late dragoon M91'swere barrel bands (The other three parts were the front sight, rear sight and bayonet). Previously toe splices in stock construction were mentioned. If you decide to remove them, it's easier to do it before disassembling the rest of the rifle. by Miller Tyme Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:05 pm, Post Birch was used as the main wood forproduction, but sometimes depots produced beech stocks, beech wood was allowed to be used starting in1943. These bands were used until 1934 in Izhevsk and up to 1935 in Tula. Shown with a Leupold 3-9x40mm VX-1 riflescope. Maybe it's just me. In stock (Only 4 left!) Copper rivets were typical to Izhevsk (brass rivets are unusual to Izhevsk), while Tula used both copper and brass rivets. I never bother with it, but if you want to invest some time doing it now, you might save a little time later sanding the finish smooth. First, inspect the chamber and make sure the rifle is not loaded. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. We are your source for aftermarket Mosin Nagant rifle accessories and parts, the original scope and mount combo, and stock kits on sale at low prices. Since at least the mid 1920's stocks were soaked with hot BLO (the earlier period will requiredeeper research). M91/30 drawings/instructions were updated with the possibility of toe splice production since 1938. Start with 800 - 1000 grit. After stripping the shellac and de-greasing. I don't think it's possible to achieve great results at home. The metal will begin to rust immediately. The majority of postwar stocks made by Arsenal #1 were made from birch, rarely from beech. It used an integral, single stack magazine, loaded from the clip chargers, with capacity for 5 rounds. Copyright 2022 Classic Firearms, LLC. Other people (including myself) just work around the bolts. It's unclear when, but in the 1930's Soviets managed to replace the imported "Cologne earth" with a chemically synthesized equivalent, this significantly improved supply. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. Original condition (left) and after sanding (right). According to "Technical conditions #1525", dried stock blanks (6-8% humidity) were polished, painted (with "beizen" stain), soaked wit BLO or tar, and covered with 8 layers of shellac lacquer and varnish. "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. If the surface is in fairly good condition, start with about 1000 grit sandpaper. In 1942 production of M91/30 rifles was restored at the newly created factory #536 NKV in Tula. Original Finnish Mosin Nagant sling swivel escutcheons with screws for the stock. Bolt Head, Cocking Knob, Guide Rod, Bolt Body, Firing Pin, Firing Pin Spring. So, let's take a look at some of the factors that . During the transitional production period in Autumn 1941, some stocks have "transitional" features - for example, a screwed sling slot insert in the front and no insert in the rear, or vice versa. Switch to 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. 91/30 Stock New Old Stock $ 49.95 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt head - Bare $ 15.00 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt Stop Screw $ 3.00 Add to cart; Mosin . Don't round off the edges (unless they're really sharp). After letting it sit for 20 minutes I rinsed it off. Whenever I get time to clean these things up I will post some pics. However,because ofmuch lower production the Tula factory was able to use BLO soaking. If you want a nicer finish you can move onto 1500 - 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. The Dragoon version was modified in 1930 to create the new M91/30 model of the Mosin Nagant. Side-to-side comparison of stocks from different manufacturers can show some differences in color and the shineof the finish, but basically, only thementioned components were used in mass production during that period. Metal underfolding stock original from AK47, new old stock. Good, but needs more work. Trigger allows you to become more accurate with your rifle. are deep, then start with 400 to 800 grit sandpaper. The Mosin-Nagant is a weapon born and bred for combat use, and even though it may be a bit obsolete today in the 21st Century, beggars can't be choosers. According to the MSDS it contains acetone, methanol and toluene. Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. Courtesy of Peter Malik. Please contact Customer Service. Identical construction was used by Tula and Izhevsk factories. The factory continued to produce stocks with these inserts up to the end of the production in late 1944. Price $22.95. The wood didn't seem to absorb much stain. Don't fret, if you're ok with a reproduction then just build your own Mosin Nagant 91/30 PU Sniper Rifle. by fullspectrum1971 Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:11 pm, Post Unfortunately, it only provides minimal protection. You may contact me at kevin@kevinsworkbench.com. The stock was covered with a thick layer of old shellac. by steelbuttplate Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 am, Post It is interesting that the shape of the cutout can be seen in the late 1930's drawings (in a so called "list of changes") - some images show a rifle with a similar cutout, but these images are not related to cutout itself. You may need to carefully tap them out of the stock. Magazine protruded below the stock just ahead of the trigger guard, and had a hinged floor plate, used to unload magazine at once and to clean it. More Details : MOSIN NAGANT TRIGGER-SEAR SPRING. bolt. Screwed insling slot inserts were eliminated, the front sling slot got a stamped insert made from 0.024" steel, the rear sling slot remained without an insert. I suspect the cosmoline had saturated deep into the wood. Since the late 1940's replacement stocks were made by only one repair facility - Arsenal #1 in Balakleya, Ukrainian SSR. The process causes the wood fibers to swell up, hopefully returning to their original shape and resulting in a smooth surface. Mosin Nagant Band Spring, Rear Our Price: $12.50 . The basic scheme of stock production from birch wood was:At first stocks were painted with a stain, then they were soaked with a compound that penetrated into the wood structure (creating a protective barrier). The stock fits most 91/30 rifles, as well as M-38 and M-44 carbines, and Mosin Nagant variants 7.62x54R. It has made its way to the United States in mass numbers through international arms dealers after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. Type with toe splice. Other people use break cleaner, oven cleaner, steam, boiling water, heat from the sun or various other things. No screws. Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 bolt action rifle in 7.62x54R caliber. You can also let the stock sit in the hot sun and wipe off the cosmoline as it seeps out every half an hour. Next, use 400 - 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. Wear gloves to prevent fingerprints in the finish. They were not produced within the borders of the USSR, production dependedon import supplies. Phone: (660) 259-2832. Re-lacquerd postwar by a Soviet repair depot. Here's my general finishing process. Other parts can be sanded smooth to improve the operation of the bolt. Most there wasn't much wrong with them. Details about stocks with a toe splice will be provided below. Extremely Popular and Highly Desirable M-44 Mosin Nagant Carbine Rifles. If temperatures get above 90 or the humidity falls under about 30% then the poly can dry so fast that it becomes difficult to apply. You'll probably have to repeat the bluing and rinsing process a few times to get a nice, dark blue finish. More Details : MOSIN NAGANT M38 M44 REAR SIGHT ASSEMBLY. You can make your first post here! The new color came out very close to the original color (before any work was started on the stock). I started with 90% rubbing alcohol and green scrubbing pads. Polishing may smooth the trigger pull, but his studies show that the sear spring is the only significant factor affecting the trigger pull. Use light pressure until all the existing scratches are gone and the surface has an even finish. 1930 Izhevsk dragoon M91 stock. Get some of the best Mosin Nagant aftermarket parts to upgrade your Mosin rifle Pu sniper scope with mounts for your surplus Mosin Nagant M91/30. After a long dispute theIzhevsk factory agreed to use sling slot inserts in the rear at lest on sniper rifle stocks, but they used their own design - similar to the front insert. Milled steel type with slot. The OEM Mosin Nagant stock is not very friendly in terms of accepting accessories and mods, most likely due to the fact that it was designed half a century ago. by qz2026 Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:35 am, Post 1924 Tula dragoon M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1924 Izhevsk dragoon M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1924 Tula infantry M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1929 Tula dragoon M91 walnut stock, sandal based wood stain, 1928 Tula dragoon stock, beizen wood stain. Although the odds of your old Mosin Nagant being worth a significant amount of money are very low, there is a small chance that your specific rifle is worth at least a little more than the average. You'll probable need to disassemble the bolt to get it clean (see below). Deceitful Seller; SKS Expert; Posts: 415; . Any dust that lands on the poly before it's dry will become embedded - and that makes it difficult to get a nice, smooth finish. Lay it on the dent and use a hot clothes iron to steam the wood. You'll need to sand off the old finish and smooth the surface. Timney-designed, unique trigger blocking safety. Certain Mosin Nagants can be much more valuable than the run-of -the- mill, gun show rifle. Restoration goals, expectations, disclaimer. by srtjeeplover95 Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:45 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Arsenal #1. Russian Major Ivan Mikhaylovich Sidorenko, a sniper during World War II, was one of the top snipers in the war, with over 500 confirmed kills. I suspect the corrosive primers and lack of through cleaning left some pitting in the barrel that increased the surface area and gave the fouling lots of places to accumulate. Don't nominate yourself for a Darwin Award. I had a hard time getting my barrel clean. Two wood types were allowed to be used - birch and walnut. After 1500 to 2000 grit sandpaper, move to the Dremel and polishing compound. There wasn't any area on the rifle without machining marks, pitting, dings, and all sorts of other imperfections. by millman Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:40 am, Post All Rights Reserved. I apply the poly using a paper towel folded to about 1" x 3". 23. Archangel AA9130OD OPFOR Precision Stock OD Green Synthetic Fixed with Adjustable Cheek Riser for Mosin Nagant M1891, Archangel 7.62x54R 10rd Black Polymer Magazine for AA9130 - AA762R 02, by ProMag, ProMag Archangel Opfor Precision Rifle Stock for Mosin-Nagant M1891 and Variants- Desert Tan - AA9130-DT, Archangel Opfor Precision Rifle Stock for Mosin-Nagant M1891 and Variants - Black Polymer - AA9130, by ProMag, Mosin Nagant Stripper Clips - 10 Pack - Loading Device for all Mosin Nagant Rifles, Aim Sports PJ003 Stripper Clip 7.62x54mm 5 rdMosin Nagant All Rifles 5 Pack Zinc-Plated Steel Silver Finish, Military Surplus Mosin Nagant Accessory Set w/ Pouch, Tool Set and Oil Bottle. In the rush of things many parts of the process were eliminated, some stocks from that time period will have no rear escutcheon, and just a flat metal plate in the front one, or nothing there either. Birch wood. HOME; GUNS FOR SALE. Nov 30, 2008. During the 1930's-1940's, the Tula and Izhevsk factories stock finish had little differencein details. Some experiments were made with different components, sometimes it is difficult to verify what components were used for the finish of a particular stock. Stock were issued by a number of manufacturers, they mainly have wartime Izhevsk pattern with simplified sling slot inserts (however, there is a big variety of configurations, and it is not possible to cover them all in a brief description on this page). Only this small change allowed for the saving of a few tons of metal monthly, it also freedalmost 100 workers and 20 machines. Izhevsk factory completely switched to thenew type in 1934, Tula - in 1935. Also 2 mosins locally going for auction a 1905 m91 and a wartime one..both appear non refabbed. It requires an extra sanding step to remove the raised grain, but the result is slightly smoother than if the grain had not been raised and sanded down. Start with a Dremel and a "rubber polishing point" to smooth out any rough spots. The bolt head and the guide rod/connector will come off. Factory calibrated ready to shoot or fully adjustable for Sear Engagement (Creep), over travel (Follow through) and Pull Weight. total length 28 1/3", folded length 18 ". The . New? Overall length is 40.4 inches, barrel length is 20.47 inches, front sights are wire pin post, rear sights are graduated 100 to 1000 meters. All Rifles, Firearms, Mosin Nagant. by Junk Yard Dog Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:00 pm, Post Welcome to the board, pictures would help, but it sounds like your rifle is made at Izhevsk, and has a wartime expedient stock. According to the very first M91/30 drawings, handguards were made from birch or walnut and had brass caps, locked with brass or copper rivets (both were allowed). Rifle Stock & Forend Parts for Mosin Nagant Best Selling ProMag AA9130 Archangel OPHOR Precision Rifle Stock - Black (167) $180.77 New ATI Mosin Nagant 7.62X54R Monte Carlo Stock - Black (23) $82.47 New $75.00 Used ProMag AA9130-DT Archangel Opfor Precision Rifle Stock for Mosin-Nagant (94) $180.79 New Hell it was always hard times in Russia. " Wrist bolts were also used during repairs of regular stocks (more details are provided in the section about repair depots modifications). Mosin Nagant 1891/30 Folding stock. The newly created factory #536 in Tula, during1942 and 1943, used the prewar pattern - brass caps with brass rivets. This rifle looked like it was made in a high school metal shop class, then taken out and beaten with an ugly stick by half the Russian army. $90.23 $ 90. M38 and M44 carbines had the same patternhandguard caps as the M91/30 riflemade by the particular factory at that moment. The rifle was originally made with a hex receiver. The same list of changes adopted round cutouts. If cleaning isn't enough then you can wipe down the surface with alcohol to partially dissolve it and polish it to a nice, new condition. That said you will find stocks with pressed escutcheons that were manufactured late in the war. Don't mess with the bolt face, the end of the firing pin or the extractor. The Best Mosin Nagant Modern Stocks in 2022 First, work as fast as possible. Mosin Nagant Parts and Accessories. Very early M91/30 stocks were finished like late M91 stocks - the stock was "painted" with a composition that was made from: - decoction of the white (yellow) sandal wood (Santalum album) in water with addition of potassium carbonate; Those decoctions were made separately, later they were merged together and Iron(II) sulfate was added. Add to Cart. Onthe top - prewar stock, on the bottom - wartime Izhevsk stock with notch. by srtjeeplover95 Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:35 am, Post Thanks guys. by Junk Yard Dog Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:46 am, Post Hold the bolt body vertically with the end of the firing pin on a sturdy surface. Apply a thin coat of wipe-on polyurethane. Mosin Nagant 91/30 Firing Pin *Good* $23.00. weight 2lb 6 oz. Be sure to do this in a well ventilated area with gloves. There have been a lotof discussions about laminated stocks. Details about toe splices will be provided below. Hi guys. Remove the receiver tang screw (located on the top of the rifle at the rear of the receiver). So a "box with cross line" at the buttstock of the majority of the stocks indicates that the it was produced by Arsenal #1. Top 3 Best Mosin Nagant Stocks On The Market 2023 Reviews Advanced Technology - Mosin Nagant Stock Monte Carlo Polymer Black Pro Mag Archangel Opfor Mosin-Nagant M1891 Precision Rifle Stock Mosin Nagant 91/30 Ph Mbc Prairie Hunter 1 Advanced Technology - Mosin Nagant Stock Monte Carlo Polymer Black I ultimately decided to spend some time cleaning it up and looking presentable on the range, but not perfect. Timney is the market leader for Mosin Nagant replacement triggers. First, evaluate the surface. In theAutumn of 1941 Izhevsk brass caps on the handguard were replaced with steel caps (blued), they were stacked instead of riveted. The darkness of the color was regulated with Iron(II) sulfate. Old t-shirts and socks also work really well. Because the dye is water based, it will raise the grain. There are also some other minor differences in the stocks between the prewar and wartime (no metal, just a slot in the wood) so if you're trying to put together a "replica" prewar .