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May be unable to create matter, only control it. Reality Warping that has no laws. And which is more powerful? Reality warping is turning a sphere inside out and then changing it into a 2-d circle by donkey punching logic. Known Users Reality warping is stronger and it should include matter manipulation. Near every state of matter is composed of molecules, from most organic compounds (proteins, amino acids, nucleic acids, sugars, carbohydrates, fats, and vitamins), the layers of the Earth, and every material humanity has utilized. Owen has never rewritten the rules of physics, he has only generated copy and pasted physics. How to prove that the supernatural or paranormal doesn't exist? He isn't remembering anything because he didn't know what happened to begin with. The last scan is him basically creating a pocket dimension for storage. Reality warping says you can no longer turn a brick into a dog because you never had power. If they are to be considered the same tier (i.e. But only I am a master of reality. Nvm. He is a Molecular Controller. Is there a set limit on mutant abilities, where they're deemed too unrealistic? He's so powerful that he's been shown able to affect even magical items, like Thor's Hammer, with less than a gesture At times, both have been shown to be near equal in power though. forums AT killermovies DOT com - KillerMovies.com When Dr.Doom attacked MM he was ambushed and never knew what hit him(literally). From matter and energy, due to its interconnectivity with the layers of reality, potent cosmic or psionic powers, space-time, overwhelming emotions, dreams, imagination, and fundamental forces. Users at this level can not only manipulate the rules of reality but also the logical framework that these rules follow, thus letting them make reality either be logical and rational or impossible and illogical. https://s22.postimg.cc/g8z2dejy9/Ultimates_2015-_011-010.jpg. And like I said, Reality warper has the ability to choose a reality where he wins. __________________ But I can make it real at any time.Crayak (Animorphs), Reality is often disappointing. Site design / logo 2023 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under CC BY-SA. Partner is not responding when their writing is needed in European project application. document.write('<'+'a href="mai'+'lto:forums'+'@'+'killermovies'+'. Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. These two superpowers are often indistinguishable, both wielding the same properties and control, except Mentifery possesses raw power and enormous potential due to being fueled by the mind, considered the most powerful concept or source in the universe to its complexity and mysterious nature. Having some resemblance usually by possession of certain attributes. Molecule man originally had the ability to mentally manipulate molecules, allowing for a variety of effects, such as the creation of force fields, energy beams, and hyperspace portals. Examples include erasing things out of existence, granting wishes, creating universes, creating/altering matter, time manipulation, spatial manipulation, etc. By clicking Accept all cookies, you agree Stack Exchange can store cookies on your device and disclose information in accordance with our Cookie Policy. There are many masters of illusion in the universe, Rachel. Well yeah it is a known fact that matter manipulators work on different level that's why some are stronger than others imo i personally use the term molecule manipulators to refer to matter manipulators i'm relatively loose with the term, and molecule man keeps the name for finesse he's cool like that and if someone judges him he just has to kill galactus. Beyonder can warp reality. For some reason, the silent inference is that "Reality" goes beyond the mere, Okay "No difference objectively" is fine. Bender Bending Rodrguez (Futurama) reached atomic scale, allowing them him to manipulate water and CO. Maxwell (Valkyrie Crusade) is a arrogant devil that can control molecules. Minor Feats Attack Potency/Strength Fought with the Violator So no. The most common (as well as the most powerful and pure) variant of reality warping is Mentifery, the power to manipulate reality through the power of the mind. From matter and energy, due to its interconnectivity with the layers of reality, potent cosmic or psionic powers, space-time, overwhelming emotions, dreams, imagination, and fundamental forces. With that said, I wouldn't put Molecule Man in that category, despite his name. Being able to manipulate atoms is more powerful than being able to manipulate molecules, and being able to manipulate sub-atomic particles is more powerful than being able to manipulate atoms, in which sub-atomic particles, atoms, and molecules are all matter. "The Dying God left your universe wounded, broken and defenseless.". he has a very high reality warping resistence tho. Lexi Krane (Lab Rats) has an ability that is similar to Chase's molecularkinesis but instead she changes the said object on psychical contact, like she turned a metal chair into ice and then melted it. Letting them do practically anything they want. He states he "turned Space and Time around" in order to see something that happened in back in time you'd have to be able to manipulate time, and he's clearly stating that he's manipulating time. https://s22.postimg.cc/g8z2dejy9/Ultimates_2015-_011-010.jpg. Matter Manipulation is the ability to control matter within the universe's laws. @daxnovu: He created a quasi-reality, it would take more than molecule manipulation to replicate such a feat. Patty/Patty Putty (Superhero Kindergarten) can rearrange her own molecular structure to that of stretchy and bouncy putty. Man of Miracles. Where as Owen can only play with what is already there. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. And now you're hoping to get people on your side due to them "getting the reference". Ion: Sub-Atomic Power, Home Comic Book Forums Comic Book 'Versus' Forum Reality Manipulation Vs Molecule Manipulation, < Beyonder had what I think to be override ability, he says it therefore it is. 2. They are two words for what might just be called miracles in a work with a different tone. He shrinked the size of a omniverse so that it would fit a box, a omniverse contains billions of realities, if that's not rewritting the rules of physics then i don't know what is. Is there a proper earth ground point in this switch box? At least sane people, who have read up on the Sentry do. What video game is Charlie playing in Poker Face S01E07. Just my two cents. Reality warping is far more powerful, as molecule manipulators are still bound by the laws of physics (reality). But with Molecular Manipulation is the controlling of molecules itself, either by shifting its form, leviation, etc. You asked if he ever manipulated a mind, and he did. In general, Reality Warping his superior to Matter Manipulation but the scale of a beings power is also key. Disappointing when someone clearly is not debating in good faith. For some reason I felt the need to say that molecule manipulation wasn't matter manipulation. I mean technically The Mask is a Reality Warper yet his power never really went past Planet Scale. Gender: UnspecifiedLocation: In Hell, torturing your soul. There isn't any need for any discussion on this, he can and has manipulated time. Reality warping can prevent matter manipulation. Press J to jump to the feed. Like Chase, Skylar Storm (Mighty Med) can use this ability in conjunction with her. VS Battles Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community.